Mr. Trillion

Reck-That chart is very poor and very inaccurate. This website outlines government spending as the following: It is important to highlight deficits are spending above what we take in debt is money owed by the Federal goverment.

Deficits:

Obama Deficits: Bush Deficits: FY 2012- $1101 Billion FY 2009- $1413 Billion

2011- $1299 Billion                                     2008- $248 Billion
2010- $1293 Billion                                     2007-$161 Billion

Debt:

FY 2012-$16.7 trillion

2011-$15.5 trillion
2010-$13.5 trillion
2009-$11.9 trillion
2008-$10.0 trillion

Total spending under Bush from 2001 to 2008 is a little over $34 trillion and spending under Obama is just over $29 trillion. This is not good for either Bush or Obama but to say Obama somehow is better than Bush on spending, debt, and deficits is silly.

it's not silly it's true. Bush's policies increased the deficit more than Obama's has by a long shot. And to be clear, deficits are what matter, not spending.

Bush starts a war, that war is still going on when Obama takes office, who is responsible for the spending on that war. Even though some of that spending happens under Obama, we all have to agree that the spending was caused by Bush. That's what my graph shows.

Believe me Alien. I would love to vote for somebody other than Obama, if the Right had put forth a serious candidate. Heck, I would have even considered Ron Paul had you guys nominated him. But noooo. You guys trying to nominate either a managerial kleptocrat in Romney (who I'll guarantee will continue the policies of Bush and Obama and widen the global conflict against the United States while trouncing upon the rights of all citizens and line the coffers of him and his cronies) or Perry who can only name the father, the son and... uh... What was the third one? Oops. or Santorum, who's all about coming from behind and covering the state (or your face), not a serious one out of the whole batch of dozen crazies that you had. Motley fools!

I keep saying this is what happens when you let the clowns take over the circus.

Reck-this blame Bush for everything doesn't work anymore. Look at the numbers and sorry what is Aliens post about? Obama wants to spend more even after what he has all ready spent isn't working.

alien's posts aren't usually about anything. they go something like htis, "puppies are cute .... trillions and trillions ... hitler, muslim, moron, abortion .... Obama

I'm not blaming Bush for everything, but pointing out the hypocrisy of the republicans rhetoric. We can't give giant tax cuts to the super rich when they are the only ones gaining anything from our increases in GDP.

Our biggest problem right now is the economy, and our long term problem is the out of control increases in healthcare costs. If we went back to the tax levels under Clinton and stopped starting wars we wouldn't have any major deficits other than a slump due to the economy being down.

@grape ...

Yes, I am starting to think Newt is the guy, too. I would love to see a debate
between Newt and Obama. What a sight that would be. Romeney may not even 
be the Republican's guy in the end. If he is, Obama will easily get four more 
years. (Heck, I might even vote for him over the wacko Romney.) Of course, 
all that depends on whether there really is something like the Illuminati running 
this country (the world?), which I am starting to suspect,  considering Obama 
became president in spite of all the reasons he should NOT have. Surely we can 
all agree (except for the diehards -- reck and sean) that Obama is a complete 
disaster for the country whether it is the fact that he is a closet Socialist, Muslim, 
or egotistical narcissist that can spin a pile of dog crap into a chocolate mousse, 
which Liberals / Democrats / Socialists lap up like there is no tomorrow for our 
children and grand children. Or because racist Conservatives / Republicans / 
Independents / Libertarians / Tea Partiers just want to see the blackish man fail. 
How is that any different that racists Liberals wanting to see the white man fail 
(Reagan, McCain, Romney, yadda yadda yadda)? I think we all know this is not 
about race (considering Obama is more white and Arab than his dominate black 
genes would lead anyone to believe). It is about an inexperienced moron running 
what used to be the greatest country in the world. We must also face the fact 
that Obama might be absolutely right about everything, but, considerning that 
the Democrats ran (almost) everything since January of 2007, why is everything 
still such a mess? Are you actually going to tell me it is because of the brain dead
Republicans in the House and Senate now (like Boner and McCain)? How can they 
be as stupid as you think they are and still keep the brilliant Obama administration 
from doing much of anything except destroying our health care system? (I still 
hear that Twilight Zone theme music.)

@outlander

reck is simply a bit jealous because he (like bloc, his alter ego) cannot string more
that a couple of sentences together. He has to post meaningless charts created by
goofball homo Liberals that usually prove that Bush was as stupid as he (reck) 
thinks he was. I will admit, Bush is not that high on my president list, but is still 
pretty high on my "he did what he had to do" list. Anyone with a brain can see that 
things started going downhill when the Democrats took over congress in 2007. And
things have continued to go downhill since Obama took over. 

@reck

Puppies ARE cute ... torture, torture, torture ... Bush did it ... I would have
sex with Obama ... homosexuality is natural, I know ... I hate my children
and could care less what kind of world they have to live in ... I should have
aborted my kids ... here is a chart.

Sorry, but you started it. ha ha ha Could there be a better example of the 
immaturity of Liberals / Democrats / Socialists than good ole reck? I think
not. 

I think the "super rich" should just do the right thing and give most of their
money to Obama. Oh wait, most of them already are either as taxes or as
campaign contributions. Increases in healthcare costs? OMG. And then 
passes Obamacare and everyone is already starting to feel the increases
in healthcare insurance. Pretty soon no one will be able to afford insurance
and there will be no one in the business (doctors, etc.) to help those who do.
We do not need more regulations. We need less regulation. Ask the people 
in the booming telecom industry. And, try to remember back just a couple
of years. We did not start the war -- terrorists did. Liberals do not care 
about war or even their fellow man for that matter. Wait, I take that back.
Most Liberal men do care about other men or aborting unborn babies.
Oops. There I go again.

I'm not saying Newt is the guy. Not at all. If you're interested in things being exactly the way it is, if you're loving this clusterfuck, then you want to nominate a Washington insider like Newt. Romney might have the hair to beat Obama, but he's not going to make anything better. He's going to make things considerably worse. He's going to concentrate the wealth in fewest hands possible. Perry can't string three words together, Huntsman might be the sanest one in the bunch but I don't know, because I don't pay attention to him. Nobody does. It's too bad he's being portrayed as a travel-sized Romney, but that's what he is, inne? Santorum... Well.. He's Santorum. He won't even be able to beat himself. Perhaps he can beat himself into a frothy mixture.

Obama is going to be known as the President who signed NDAA into law. After all the smoke clears and all the hype over Obamacare and unemployment passes, his legacy is going to be the guy who signed indefinite detention of American citizens into law in the name of combating terror. Forget about closing GITMO. We're going to open up more of them. A new wing, maybe.

Reck- You guys need a different slogan because that has been done and done and overdone to point it is just annoying. Tax cuts for anybody working or not working is a matter of debate but holy crap is what Obama doing working? Say what you will about Bush but under him the unemployment rate was low and GDP growth was high. I don't give a crap who gets the tax cuts I just want this economy moving forward faster than a snails pace. And are you actually claiming that a giant tax increase on the wealthy would have worked to get this economy going? Certainly under Clinton tax increases worked during the internet boom but right now taking more more money out of a near dead economy, are you serious?

Wikipedia says ...

    The detention provisions of the Act have received critical attention by, among 
    others, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and some media sources 
    which are concerned about the scope of the President's authority, including 
    contentions that those whom they claim may be held indefinitely could include 
    U.S. citizens arrested on American soil, including arrests by members of the 
    Armed Forces.

Why would it surprise you that Obama signed this bill into law? This has Obama
written all over it -- more presidential power to do whatever he wants if he is
not getting his way. The surprising thing is that there are people like you guys
who cannot see through all this stuff. Anyway, Huntsman is out. Duh. It is 
slowly but surely narrowing down to Romney and Perry. The arguments against
Perry are pretty lame considering Obama gets his tongue in a knot every time
he is away from the teleprompter. Even when he is reading from the teleprompter
he is blithering a bunch of inconsistent lies. If you are in any way honest, all you
have to do is go back and listen to what he said last week, last month, or last
year and see how he is lying about it today. The big difference is that Perry 
governs the most economically successful state in the union. You can try to
claim that it is not because of him, but it is because of Republican / Conservative
philosophy -- not Democrat / Socialist / Liberal philosophy. I heard the guys on
the radio last night talking about how companies and corporations were fleeing
California for places like Texas. California is more like Obama's vision of
America -- an oppressive, over taxing nanny state -- except that on the 
national scale companies flee to other countries taking their jobs with them.
And who could blame them? No, if Newt became president, the country would
be more like it was under your beloved Clinton in the 90s. Newt was actually
the man responsible for all that, the balanced budget and the prosperity,
and of course Reagan's 25 years of prosperity. Republicans / Conservatives
were responsible, not moronic Liberals like Obama and Clinton.