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I'm not the fittest chap in the world, but I'm pretty strong. I climb a minimum of twice a week, and before I started college I used to work out daily too. Now I'm in a better job with more free time, I can go back to it.

Instead of going back to my free weights, I've joined a gym. There's a few reasons, the main one being my strength. When I was lifting free weights every day, there was a number of exercises I couldn't do, namely bench pressing (hard without a bench to properly work the pecs), and one arm row - I broke a few slats in my old bunk trying to do that. Plus its quite hard to find dumbells heavy enough. I had two 25kg sets that I was putting together so I could curl 30kg.

And why? I'm happy with my build, despite being obese. I weigh 280lbs but according to the doctor I don't actually need to worry about my weight, because its all pretty lean. I can do pull ups, run reasonable distances and climb well. But I still want to be stronger and heavier, I climb using raw power and technique instead of agility, which works great for me and one of my mates (we are both the same weight, and as good as the climbers in our group that are athletic and 10 stone)

Amusingly over the weekend my mum asked my what I weigh. I told her, 19ish stone, and she told me I need to lose weight, as I looked better when I was 15 stone (18 years old). I was seriously ill having not eaten properly in three months and was suffering with muscular atrophy, which is why I've got a whacking great big scar across my shoulder - it dislocated because there was fuck all muscle holding it in, and had to be taped in place for almost a year, before it went again and they decided to cut it open and start again.

Climbing can be a high impact sport and this level you need to be strong. At 15 stone and 18 years old I got an injury that needed a £1,600 4-hour operation, 3 years of physio (which I'm still doing) and nearly cost me my arm.

So when my mum said I should be 15 stone, which is my 'ideal' weigh, according to the doctors, I tend not to listen.

See, as a climber we work on power-weight ratio. Its okay to be really fucking heavy, as long as you can lift it. Likewise, you can be light and wiry.

All that happens is when I train, I get heavier. I've been this weight for a few years now and I'm climbing at my peak. In the past where I've lost weight I've just got weaker. Like when I went down to 15 stone I could hardly manage a grade 3. Then as my weight picked up my grade picked up (after I'd had my operation, obviously), and seeing as before I was starved I weighed 17 stone and I was climbing a 5, then when I was 18 stone that went up to 6a, then I went back down to 16 stone and I was climbing pathetically, now I'm back at the sort of weight I feel happy with I'm hovering around the 6c/7a mark. I think to crack the grade 7s I'm going to need a lot more power, and with that will come weight.

I'm not just joining one gym. I'm getting casual use membership at all the local ones, that way wherever I'm working I can go and do a bit on the way home. Then if I climb three times a week too, I'll get there.

With the plans for the summer, and the amount of training I'm doing (which is increasing), I get the feeling I'm going to go well past 20 stone.

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seer said over 1 year ago ...

I remember the day I bought the two 25kg sets, actually. I explained the the guy in the local shop instead of buying extra weights and putting them on the bar its cheaper just to buy a second set. He picked up the two sets with help from his colleague, and said "Do you need help loading these into your car?" Erm, I've just told you I have to lump two 25kg sets together, and my old set is rusted through, so I am planning on lifting them again when I get home, so I think I'll be fine.

starchini said over 1 year ago ...

Yea the weight doesnt matter, its the muscle to fat ratio that matters. So if you weigh a lot and are really strong, well, that speaks for itself. Ive heard the best way other than just working out to gain muscles mass is a high protein diet. Personally, I need my crabs for energy. I simply cant run on only protein. People say though once you pass ketosis that your body burns protein like it would carbs. That just isnt how it worked for me. I was so tired all the time w/o carbs. Anyways, have fun climbing and working out, I hope you reach your goal. how many pounds is 20 stone?

seer said over 1 year ago ...
  1. I miscalculated when I said I was 280, I'm 266. See, I'm feeble!!

I strictly don't eat protein for breakfast, I will eat carbs all day, then I avoid it like the plague after lunch, because you need protein before you go to bed to rebuild the muscle tissue you have damaged.

zsuzsio said over 1 year ago ...

I don't know much about climbing, but I do know that no matter what it is you are doing, as long as you are healthy and keep on moving weight isn't the problem. The real problem is body fat, not it's weight. And it is a fact that muscles weight more than fat anyway. I am not a climber or anything like that, but I used to work out a lot. After my pregnancy I did a low carb diet and lost most of the weight but I was never a bone thing girl as I always had muscles on my bones. Now, that I gained so much weight and feel so uncomfortable with it in so many ways I can tell you that the real danger with having lots of muscles is that once you stop working out they all turn into fat really quickly and gaining weight is that much easier cause the body is used to burn much more calories. I am now heavier than I've ever been, but I must admit, I also had a depressed period when I basically didn't get out of bed for months. That didn't help. However, I started working again, and what I do now is hard physical work. I check my weight every day but it has not changed since the 3 weeks I am being active again. Yet I just know that I am losing body fat and building muscles, because I can see it on my body and I can feel the change in how I feel. I want to go back to the gym and start running again, but I'm afraid I am not that strong yet. My goal is to lose weight so to me carbs are the bad boys, and proteins are the Lords or Jedi on the light side (I can't believe I just wrote this :-D ). I just want to look good again, that's all. And feel good about myself too.

In your case, I am not sure how big you really look, but I know some body builders who look like a balloon and so I know what your mom meant by saying that you looked better thinner. My ex BF used to have this gorgeous body - he was tall with wide shoulders, huge hands and nice cut muscles all over his body. I have not seen him for about 7 years but I found him on FB about a couple of weeks ago. Apparently he started to work out so he can become a professional body builder. Now all his family are heavy set ppl so it is easy for him to gain weight. He is huge now, and all his muscles are round and pillow-like. I couldn't stop myself saying that he looked WAY better as a man in my eyes when he was thinner and more cut. See, girls don't like those over built muscles. Of course he was very offended by my words and said that he knows he looks good and that he is just a step away from becoming professional so I have no idea of what I was talking about. I didn't feel the need to explain to him the difference between looking good for a girl and looking good for a competition or any kind that needs huge muscles. But I think that when your mom told you to lose weight she simply looked at you with the eyes of a simple female, not with the eyes of a professional climber.

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